Comments on: 03 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/ No shame, no gain. Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:34:02 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Stephanie http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-47 Stephanie Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:07:08 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-47 Wow. Lame. Wow. Lame.

]]> By: Rachael http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-46 Rachael Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:48:25 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-46 I don't have the link up because I don't see the point. People should just automatically make their markup valid by standard. I do know that I have errors, though, they're on my big to-do list. ;) I don’t have the link up because I don’t see the point. People should just automatically make their markup valid by standard. I do know that I have errors, though, they’re on my big to-do list. ;)

]]> By: Whitters http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-44 Whitters Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:29:57 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-44 <blockquote>If the premade was invalid from the start, the loud, proud, valid link shouldn’t be there. And if the premade was valid and you butchered it, you should be able to take out the “valid” link by yourself, no?</blockquote> Oh, I agree with you there. I just think that most people who are downloading premade themes... The validation link is pretty much the last thing on their mind. I fully support people pointing this out (just as this site is doing). Some people, however, take it too far and act like a non-valid site makes you a horrible web developer. I guess I just fail to see how someone making a mistake which causes errors (for example, my 10 errors were caused by one misplaced /) automatically makes them a liar because they have the validation link. Its not like these people are touting around like "I have a valid website!" everywhere they go.. Its usually a link that's barely even noticeable. But yeah, just my $0.02. Oh, P.S. I think one of your noscript tags is messing up your validation. I know you don't have the valid link up on your page, but I thought you might like to know (its only 2 errors, should be fixed pretty easily). :)

If the premade was invalid from the start, the loud, proud, valid link shouldn’t be there. And if the premade was valid and you butchered it, you should be able to take out the “valid” link by yourself, no?

Oh, I agree with you there. I just think that most people who are downloading premade themes… The validation link is pretty much the last thing on their mind. I fully support people pointing this out (just as this site is doing). Some people, however, take it too far and act like a non-valid site makes you a horrible web developer.

I guess I just fail to see how someone making a mistake which causes errors (for example, my 10 errors were caused by one misplaced /) automatically makes them a liar because they have the validation link. Its not like these people are touting around like “I have a valid website!” everywhere they go.. Its usually a link that’s barely even noticeable.

But yeah, just my $0.02.

Oh, P.S. I think one of your noscript tags is messing up your validation. I know you don’t have the valid link up on your page, but I thought you might like to know (its only 2 errors, should be fixed pretty easily). :)

]]> By: Sarah http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-43 Sarah Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:23:19 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-43 Do you honestly not have anything better to do? *laughs* Thanks for the plug. I honestly don't particularly care whether my site is valid or not. I have more important things to deal with in my life at the moment than making sure my xhtml is perfect and my site loads in every browser known to man.. you know, such as making sure my mentally ill mother is okay, and mourning the death of a family member. *rolls eyes* Do you honestly not have anything better to do?

*laughs*

Thanks for the plug. I honestly don’t particularly care whether my site is valid or not. I have more important things to deal with in my life at the moment than making sure my xhtml is perfect and my site loads in every browser known to man.. you know, such as making sure my mentally ill mother is okay, and mourning the death of a family member.

*rolls eyes*

]]> By: Rachael http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-42 Rachael Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:19:54 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-42 <blockquote>So there’s really no shame in not having a valid site, especially if someone isn’t using their own layout and just have uploaded a pre-made theme.</blockquote> No, but LYING is shameful... It doesn't matter if you're using a premade. If the premade was invalid from the start, the loud, proud, valid link shouldn't be there. And if the premade was valid and you butchered it, you should be able to take out the "valid" link by yourself, no?

So there’s really no shame in not having a valid site, especially if someone isn’t using their own layout and just have uploaded a pre-made theme.

No, but LYING is shameful… It doesn’t matter if you’re using a premade. If the premade was invalid from the start, the loud, proud, valid link shouldn’t be there. And if the premade was valid and you butchered it, you should be able to take out the “valid” link by yourself, no?

]]> By: If you don’t want to do something, one excuse is as good as another. - Aflux http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-41 If you don’t want to do something, one excuse is as good as another. - Aflux Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:51:02 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-41 [...] it was causing about 111 validation errors and apparently that’s like, really, really important to some anonymous people on the internet. [...] [...] it was causing about 111 validation errors and apparently that’s like, really, really important to some anonymous people on the internet. [...]

]]> By: Whitters http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-40 Whitters Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:00:01 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-40 Vera: And I'm somehow not allowed to disagree with sarcasm? Or state my own opinion? And even if it was sarcasm, considering both of her comments on the subject, it doesn't seem very likely. Sarcasm is a tricky thing - it doesn't translate well over the Internet since one cannot see the authors expression/hear their tone of voice. Vera: And I’m somehow not allowed to disagree with sarcasm? Or state my own opinion? And even if it was sarcasm, considering both of her comments on the subject, it doesn’t seem very likely. Sarcasm is a tricky thing – it doesn’t translate well over the Internet since one cannot see the authors expression/hear their tone of voice.

]]> By: Vera http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-39 Vera Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:38:49 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-39 Whitters: ahem that was S-A-R-C-A-S-M. Whitters: ahem that was S-A-R-C-A-S-M.

]]> By: Whitters http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-38 Whitters Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:18:45 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-38 Hey! Thanks! (I always tend to keep going back to check and make sure that my coding is validated - but I haven't recently) Its always those damn input fields that I forget to put the / in! But I do have to disagree with Rachael. Not like validation is the end-all be-all of web development.. So there's really no shame in not having a valid site, especially if someone isn't using their own layout and just have uploaded a pre-made theme. It's not the site owners fault that the original author didn't validate (unless of course the site owner butchered the layout themselves, which I know many of them tend to do). But yeah, thanks for linking to me and letting me know about that! I'd probably not have noticed it for a while otherwise! Hey! Thanks!
(I always tend to keep going back to check and make sure that my coding is validated – but I haven’t recently)

Its always those damn input fields that I forget to put the / in!

But I do have to disagree with Rachael. Not like validation is the end-all be-all of web development.. So there’s really no shame in not having a valid site, especially if someone isn’t using their own layout and just have uploaded a pre-made theme. It’s not the site owners fault that the original author didn’t validate (unless of course the site owner butchered the layout themselves, which I know many of them tend to do).

But yeah, thanks for linking to me and letting me know about that! I’d probably not have noticed it for a while otherwise!

]]> By: Rachael http://notvalid.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/03/#comment-35 Rachael Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:28:09 +0000 http://notvalid.wordpress.com/?p=20#comment-35 Yes, Lucy, just like that! Because, you know... a plain ol' list doesn't really have enough impact. If the owner of this website is "naming and shaming" people, well, they've got the naming part sorted... they just need to emphasise on the shame part. Yes, Lucy, just like that! Because, you know… a plain ol’ list doesn’t really have enough impact. If the owner of this website is “naming and shaming” people, well, they’ve got the naming part sorted… they just need to emphasise on the shame part.

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